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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1260 on: January 14, 2021, 01:17:09 am »

At the end of the day, if you don't comply with Mega's TOS there's always a risk of being taken down. Loli & Real Girl packs are especially risky. The fact that others happen to also be breaking Mega's rules doesn't change that. Sucks that there are people actively reporting it, but it's not something I can get too worked up about.

We could start providing multiple download sources per girl pack using alternate hosts instead of being so Mega-centric, that would make vindictive takedowns a lot more cumbersome.
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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1261 on: January 14, 2021, 02:23:12 am »

At the end of the day, if you don't comply with Mega's TOS there's always a risk of being taken down.
'Complying with MEGA's TOS' is not realistic goal, unless all you use it for is wholesome family photos of yourself and maybe your cat (no wife, no kids, no parents, no siblings). Otherwise, this nugget
Quote from: Mega TOS
data in violation of any law in any country
is virtually guaranteed to make you a target for selective enforcement if someone wants to hit you.

Unlike forum rules, Mega TOS is a bunch of CYA stuff that almost has to be enforced selectively. Or go the Tumbler route. :( And Mega's business model is pretty much built around people uploading random crap onto it. They are not about providing a reliable cloud service or something like that.

Loli & Real Girl packs are especially risky.
You're violating someone's copyright or similar with virtually anything you put into a girl pack (and a great many other things). I'd say a (non-loli) Japanese eroge company is actually more likely to come after you than a porn starlet, as vanishing as both chances are right now.

I'm not aware of MEGA screening uploads for loli, shota, bestiality or whatever 'obscenity' covers in all the countries of the world. The risk seems to come entirely from the user base.

The fact that others happen to also be breaking Mega's rules doesn't change that.
The point is, your use of MEGA is founded upon breaking these rules. The whole 'adult game scene' is built around people not being asshats about it. If some go overboard and Mega does a Pornhub, will you be happily shrugging your shoulders and saying 'ah, well, they/we had it coming' as well?

Sucks that there are people actively reporting it, but it's not something I can get too worked up about.
If Goldo had put BK onto MEGA (a pretty reasonable assumption), and some vindicative player reported it, what do you think would have happened? At best, we'd have had the game and the images separated, and when Goldo grew tired of playing tag, he'd just say "Put your own art in there, the filenames are such and such".

We could start providing multiple download sources per girl pack using alternate hosts instead of being so Mega-centric, that would make vindictive takedowns a lot more cumbersome.
Are you volunteering? :-\ People use MEGA because it's convenient. If pack makers now have to create and maintain half a dozen separate repositories, I foresee a lot less new pack makers ever doing more than a few.

TLDR: 'I don't care, doesn't affect me' is not a good attitude to take here, since the way BK draws players is founded on proprietary art.
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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1262 on: January 14, 2021, 02:27:36 am »

That pretty much sums up how I feel as well.
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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1263 on: January 14, 2021, 04:03:30 am »

I support and suggest an immediate step of replacing the link on F95zone of the girl spreadsheet with a link to the HHS forum girlpacks thread, where the first post on that HHS thread includes the actual link to the spreadsheet.

The HHS spreadsheet link does not need to be plaintext to make it visible to non-registered visitors, and I suggest that would be a small enough risk to maintain support for casual users.

Let's start with some steps to take this out of the mindspace of those F95zone users who are outraged.
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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1264 on: January 14, 2021, 04:07:21 am »

A temporary moratorium of a few months on all girl packs being made as a warning is also possible. That'd require all active packmakers to come abroad aboard, though. Edit: Now that's a Freudian typo if I ever saw one!

Like Leortha, I'm on a bit of a hiatus from making packs, so if this is something we decide to do I'm for it
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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1265 on: January 14, 2021, 04:14:32 am »

I'd also recommend y'all to backup your packs somewhere else, whether that be a separate cloud service, somewhere on your drive, or in a flash drive just in case worst comes to worst
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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1266 on: January 14, 2021, 04:15:48 am »

What, I plan on doing is to use this time to go over my packs and update them with the new tags like market and try out the new support for WEBM. Then I will get back to making new packs. Although I may not post them until I feel this mass had calmed down a bit. In the meantime just DM me if there's a pack I have made you want it or if there is something wrong with my packs that need fixing like a messed up tag.
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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1267 on: January 14, 2021, 04:20:48 am »

I'd also recommend y'all to backup your packs somewhere else, whether that be a separate cloud service, somewhere on your drive, or in a flash drive just in case worst comes to worst
I fully agree, and I'm lucky I did this from the start or I would have lost everything.
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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1268 on: January 14, 2021, 06:16:03 am »

TLDR: 'I don't care, doesn't affect me' is not a good attitude to take here, since the way BK draws players is founded on proprietary art.
That's not what I'm saying at all, I'm saying that it sounds a bit rich to me to feel entitled to be allowed to break the law. Instead, I prefer to always keep in mind that we operate in a gray-zone here, well prepared to deal with the consequences and discomforts that might come with that situation.

Yes, let's always have backups.
Yes, let's be ready to re-upload, to a different host if we have to.
Yes, let's minimize our exposure if we have to.
No, let's not start a righteous crusade against whoever's reporting us.
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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1269 on: January 14, 2021, 05:37:51 pm »

That's not what I'm saying at all
Yes, let's minimize our exposure
No, let's not start
Your stance still amounts to 'take precautions to avoid contact and bend over if it's impossible'. I believe nobody with real experience with bullies (which is essentially what we're dealing with here) will say that's a good idea.

Well, maybe the whole thing will blow over, but I don't really think it sets a good precedent to ignore this, because user behaviour is the only real shield we have.

Yes, let's minimize our exposure if we have to.
Girl packs are meant to be as exposed as possible. This position is just bizarre. ???

I'm saying that it sounds a bit rich to me to feel entitled to be allowed to break the law.
It's a lot more entitled to feel you should be able to freely download and use girl packs and hit only those you don't like while expecting the packmakers to just suck it up. Nobody here is breaking 'the law' any less than the other side.

And I remind you that 'the law' is 'any law in any country', not merely whatever you're used to. And copyright laws are largely a corporate invention. The moment they become inconvenient to the big corps, they are suddenly quite not as important anymore. See e.g. Disney vs Alan Dean Foster.

Instead, I prefer to always keep in mind that we operate in a gray-zone here, well prepared to deal with the consequences and discomforts that might come with that situation.
We don't operate in a 'grey' zone, we're fully in the 'black'. In situations like these, the unspoken convention has always been that you don't snitch on your supplier. Or there will be consequences.

No, let's not start a righteous crusade against whoever's reporting us.
Nobody mentioned a crusade. Leortha explicitly said we should not start an escalation. But a clear message that this isn't something pack makers tolerate, and an actual action (a lull in publishing, less support on F95 etc) to go with it is both the best and least we could do.

Well, if pack makers don't care, I guess I can also just say it's not my fight and leave you to duplicating your packs with several hosts. I dearly hope I won't get the opportunity to say 'told you so!' at some point. :(
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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1270 on: January 14, 2021, 07:34:47 pm »

Nobody mentioned a crusade. Leortha explicitly said we should not start an escalation. But a clear message that this isn't something pack makers tolerate, and an actual action (a lull in publishing, less support on F95 etc) to go with it is both the best and least we could do.
I'm all for those actions, in case that isn't clear yet.
Just count me out if they don't produce the desired results. Better to cut ties alltogether with F95 then and find an alternative host for loli-content to limit takedowns (eg: allthefallen.ninja)
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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1271 on: January 15, 2021, 01:48:08 am »

I'm sorry for what happened to Aren, didn't figure out that a bunch of bigoted people could possibly be on a H forum like F95zone. Since I'm the creator of the girl packs discussion there it's my duty to let them know that we won't tolerate any further sabotage of our packs, especially when nobody breaks forum rules.
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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1272 on: January 15, 2021, 02:31:54 am »

I'm sorry for what happened to Aren, didn't figure out that a bunch of bigoted people could possibly be on a H forum like F95zone. Since I'm the creator of the girl packs discussion there it's my duty to let them know that we won't tolerate any further sabotage of our packs, especially when nobody breaks forum rules.

To provide a layer of separation, could you change the F95 mod/girlpack OP so the spreadsheet link is replaced by a link to HHS girlpack forum thread, with description that the list is linked in that thread's OP? Might get some insulation that way.

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The revamped list of girl packs, with ratings and number of pics, can be found here: BK Girl Packs List

You or I could then request F95 mods to edit and put similar language in main F95 OP.

And recommend your asking the harassers to back off be somewhat diplomatic, along the lines of, we're not inflicting unwanted content on the F95 community, so give content creators some respect.
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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1273 on: January 15, 2021, 02:38:54 am »

I'm sorry for what happened to Aren, didn't figure out that a bunch of bigoted people could possibly be on a H forum like F95zone. Since I'm the creator of the girl packs discussion there it's my duty to let them know that we won't tolerate any further sabotage of our packs, especially when nobody breaks forum rules.
Well the upside is I can use the time. I’m working on how I want to put them back up. To update my packs to a far better quality. I already have all of them up to B+ and A+ now I’m adding WEBMs to all of them.
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Re: Girl packs
« Reply #1274 on: January 15, 2021, 05:33:04 am »

I mostly agree with Neronero. I don't really see what else could be done. "We won't tolerate any further sabotage of our packs" is easier said than done. What'cha gonna do about it?

You could start a flame war in the forum with these people (I assume they bragged with their achievement there, so you can at least address them), but these guys just LOVE those. You'll be doing them a favor as they get even more of the attention that they crave.

Even in the unlikely event you were successful in shutting them up, they could still anonymously push the Report button on MEGA and there's nothing you can do about it.
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