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Leortha

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Re: Brothel King wikia
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2019, 12:56:59 am »

What do other Eroge wikis use?  If they use Fandom, and get away with it, maybe they do it by making sure to not put any H material up on the wiki itself.  That would be easy enough to comply with. 

The problem is that they may very well have just as much of a problem with us dropping in links to the girl packs.  And that's a bit more tricky, as doing pages for the girl packs is a good bit of what we'd like to do.

That said, in theory we could do a site just for the game itself.  Tips, tricks, details, etc.  But that's a lot less than we were wanting to do.

Of course, if a different site could be found, that would be good.
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Re: Brothel King wikia
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2019, 02:45:38 am »

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Re: Brothel King wikia
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2019, 11:39:38 am »

I've taken a look at slave maker wikia, they made it with a software named mediawiki; after downloaded the software I've understood that it must be put into the website hosting the wikia, so making a website for BK would allow us to work at best with this editor (if HHS doesn't allow us to put such software here of course). I think it's the best choice: no limitations, a good text editor.
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Re: Brothel King wikia
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2019, 05:36:42 pm »

I've taken a look at slave maker wikia, they made it with a software named mediawiki; after downloaded the software I've understood that it must be put into the website hosting the wikia, so making a website for BK would allow us to work at best with this editor (if HHS doesn't allow us to put such software here of course). I think it's the best choice: no limitations, a good text editor.

When you say "HHS" do you mean the forums? Being the host, I will install whatever I want however I want, however I do desire a certain form of experience between the systems, and no one has asked me anything from what I recall. If they have, please point, I must have missed it.

If you want MediaWiki (even if you host it yourself) I would advise you check the requirements (iirc MediaWiki is driven by a DB, MySQL the default usually) and you have permissions and you might find a few useful plugins kicking around. Biggest user of Mediawiki would be the authors, Wikipedia (touch more significant than most others ;) ), its a solid highly expansive wiki with lots of features and plugins etc etc etc... I would highly suggest you play around with it if you haven't managed a mediawiki instance (self hosted or not) before. If you have great.

I've have used dokuwiki here as there is no db (its far easier to move around, and fling one up for casual usage.. which I have done for personal usage), its a simple installation and it was designed for documentation originally (still has plugins, auth etc..). The Wiki here is linked to group membership for permissions, those not familiar with dokuwiki will not know how this works, but I have a thing against open access wikis as they are targets for bots for abuse and damage to the information held either. So a base level of authentication is enough to keep them out (assuming registration is protected). Because I have background history with Dokuwiki I also know how to tweak and adjust its behaviour so I melted it into the SMF installation a little (template, and the auth is something "different").

There are ofc LOADS of alternatives kicking around thesedays (I would expect several ppl here could throw up loads of suggestions), options are endless some which blur the edges between site management, CMS, wiki and various other forms of software.

Lastly if you want to use what I host, and have issues with it, state specifics with it and I can look at if they can be addressed, or if I need to demonstrate stuff or whatever, (group membership for an editor group I can delegate to others for example). Either way there are things I won't do (as mentioned I won't leave the wiki's open for universal edit - however there are ways to open it up for more editing, the HHS+ one had its edit right globally dropped).
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Re: Brothel King wikia
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2019, 01:35:57 pm »

Thanks for the infos Zythen, in fact I don't want a BK wiki to be editable by whoerer comes around, there must be a restricted access for editors, a few volunteers who take care of inserting new pages on girl packs and mods. The software, too, doesn't need to be much complex, we only need to do text + pics pages, the simpler, the better.
I have no experience of making a wikia, my first try was that one on fandom and we know how it ended, but I am good in making web and text pages. If you don't mind to host such a wikia here, using a tool you already know well, I'll be glad to ask you a little help, let's just wait a little more, maybe after BK 0.15 or maybe 0.20 will be released. Thank you in advance ;-)
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Re: Brothel King wikia
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2019, 08:07:04 pm »

Is the restriction on fandom related to just pictures or does it cover all adult content (including text)?

I think we could easily keep the pictures SFW. Of course if all adult content is banned, that is another story.

However, I'm pretty sure I saw some wikias for eroge like this one:
https://alicesoft.fandom.com/wiki/Evenicle

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Re: Brothel King wikia
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2019, 11:47:42 pm »

Is the restriction on fandom related to just pictures or does it cover all adult content (including text)?

I think we could easily keep the pictures SFW. Of course if all adult content is banned, that is another story.

However, I'm pretty sure I saw some wikias for eroge like this one:
https://alicesoft.fandom.com/wiki/Evenicle

Fandom has covered their collective asses though:

From: https://www.fandom.com/terms-of-use
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User Conduct

You agree not to use the Service to:
  • Post or transmit any content that is obscene, pornographic, abusive, offensive, profane, or otherwise violates any law or right of any third party, or content that contains homophobia, ethnic slurs, religious intolerance, or encourages criminal conduct;

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FANDOM welcomes communities (known as “wikis”) on almost any topic, large or small, popular or obscure, modern or historical, creative or documentary, funny or serious. However, your community must contain no hate, no libel, no pornographic content, and no copyright infringement.

If you look through the content of the instance you quoted, I don't believe any of the pornographic material is there, a few of the pictures have quite skimpy clothing, but there's no outright nudity and at most you could call them suggestive perhaps, but very fanservice'y (then again, very little phases me, so I could be utterly wrong). Most content sites I've ever looked at has something like this. So if you can keep the content SFW or at least quite soft (and not just the pictures, the text/discussions as well), you're fine.

This doesn't mean there isn't content that goes against those rules, its just they haven't found/dealt with it yet and any publicly declared breach would be dealt with rapidly and review/retraining of internal policies/procedures would be followed up on to ensure it would not happen again! (perhaps ;) )
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Re: Brothel King wikia
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2019, 09:39:37 pm »

Judging by pages like this one, I'm guessing the grey area is large enough to slip a Bro King SFW wikia past the censorship...

But of course, knowing that fandom could crack down at any moment and make you lose all your hard work could be quite a deterrent for editors. Ultimately, it is they who will be putting in the hard work, so I guess they get to pick the best course of action.
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Re: Brothel King wikia
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2019, 01:12:05 pm »

In my experience, several people who was doing fandom for some H-Games, got warning first before, they was closed. But at same time, there was great amount of H-Pictures, so. There is tons of fandom's made by H-Games and work normally, but provide mainly text and SFW pictures.
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Re: Brothel King wikia
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2019, 08:28:03 pm »

So is there any updates or ideas, or is this just a dead thread? Tis a shame if it was...
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Re: Brothel King wikia
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2019, 01:27:15 am »

I'm dealing with some game events now, so I decided to take the wiki project aside for now; sorry, very few time to spend on it and still banned from fandom (1 year ban, sigh I've never got banned before in my whole lifetime...)
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